OH REALLY FOG

OH REALLY FOG. "Labeling U.S. as terrorist is anti-American."
Does Bill O’Reilly take credit for that as the title of his piece?

Labeling is where we have a problem. It is a shortcut that is very American. Unfortunately, both terrorist and anti-American are labels. Some definition someone sticks on others so they don’t have to use definitions or worry about their instability or inconsistencies. Terrorist is a word that has several definitions and American even more. Anti-American can probably have no less. Propaganda has a few definitions of its own. And when words are tossed about, things can get pretty sloppy and cruel. Given the flexibility in these definitions one could almost say anything, and not know what it really means. But I am pretty sure your attack itself is just as un-American, if being American means being concerned about defining our words and actions.

But signing on to a group need not be as much as you think, when you think most people know what you state is only implied.

Now that I have read more about Not in our Name and the transcript from your show, let me know if they have misquoted you, but it makes me even more furious. In fact I may be as furious as you are. Not only are you the propaganda, but what you are so upset about is your own doing. Not only do you misconstrue their ad, you can’t even comprehend what people like them are talking about. In particular, when you confuse/compare the sympathy NION has for the deaths of anyone, with your comparing of the actions of the suicidal bombers with the reasonable goals in Kuwait and Panama. If you are the NO SPIN ZONE, not only can’t handle spin, you don’t know the meaning of spin. I really liked your take on the FOG of history. That is really where you are coming from and where you are going. At least the people you disparage have names whether they have control of the complete message or not, unlike the ones too afraid to be labeled as consultants in the Cheney Energy panel, that is O’Reilly American.

By the way, I never found the mentioned ad on your site, nor on their site. But hopefully I have fairly dealt with what you did say. Any attempt to link people with groups that they are not necessarily aware of is much less significant than Cheney not wanting to be linked to those who he would consult with, not to mention your fog.

Why can you not see the insanity in your thinking? Now it is clear, Oh really. It is the fog of history you are in and out of. That and the theory: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It also saves one from needing to have principles. The enemy of my enemy is my friend applies very strangely. If one is not the enemy of your enemy they must also be your enemy. No wonder it’s hard for us to have friends. With people working for peace and progress it poses a catch-22. With others it is safer to just have enemies. It is also no wonder some would rather arm themselves then trust the government. Why can’t you see that opposing violence is different than choosing sides, and dissension and or protest not in the same league as war or un-principled violence?

[Update: 2-13-12 labels and links]

SHOCK and AWE(UPDATE)

Martin Bashir on Aid to Pakistan [To the President:]

So before he is tempted to cut all forms of funding, I would like to remind him of the wise words that he wrote back in 2006 in his book "The Audacity of Hope." Speaking about the circumstances in which terrorism can flourish, he highlighted failed states and poverty as the two most important factors.

Not to raise any suspicions** but the mission has not been so clearly defined in original reports.

CIA Chief Leon Panetta, later Tuesday told NBC News, "The authorities(sic*) we have on Bin Laden are to kill him. And that was made clear. But it was also, as part of their rules of engagement, if he suddenly put up his hands and offered to be captured, then they would have the opportunity, obviously, to capture him. But that opportunity never developed."

But back to the issue of aid. See raise link.

Using stringent language, a statement by the Pakistani Foreign Office said, "Such an event shall not serve as a future precedent for any state, including the United States."

This is clearly a nuanced not "stringent language". But if,(and I mean A BIG IF) Osama bin Laden has been hiding in this compound for six years, it is difficult for the Bush administration to take much credit for the success of this mission, (let alone waterboarding). And while President Obama has been clear on the issues of failed states and poverty being part of the security equation, it is hard to expect Pakistan to be totally free of corruption or political and intelligence intrigue, let alone competence***. It is much easier to speculate and develop tin foil conspiracies that may actually be based on some evidence, and to use them to destabilize, than it is to change things at home let alone for another country. As the right seems to paint themselves into the corner of hypocrisy, the President has the responsibility of being the cherry picker and decider-in-chief. And in connecting the dots of the likes of the latest Right, (remember A BIG IF) then there must be some logic that the Bush administration must be further scrutinized for their part in a $1.4 trillion escapade of terror. How can we hold other countries responsible for competentencies when ours (and often rightly so) are so political?

* my (sic)inserted maybe "authorizations"?
** it is not the "fog of war" it is the fog of understanding and journalism
*** there is some irony in this linkage given prior asterisks
[Apologies for the nuance and dynamics of this threading, it is tricky to deal with the likes of some thinking, let alone journalism. And it was not my intent to necessarily minimize incitefulness or skirt a tin-foil issue or weave Teflon administrations.]

[While I may have great peripheral vision, I link the link weave last, but it was embedded in any above(3rd link).]
[Breaking news (which might be broken), apparently they will not release the photo of bin Laden, the argument is that there may be no pleasing some.]

[Further Embed Meant: Pakistan and speaking of timing. The death of A BIG IF?]
[Back to My TetraHeDron? Not Exactly!]
[Post Post In-put]
[Pre-Post er us in - put?]

Thursday, May 05, 2011
No Photos
"cathartic moment"
Now* to America's Future

*actually see not so Pre-Post er us reference to in-put(above). Also on Rumsfeld. On Stiglitz. Doing Justice?
[Important flip-flop or fair and balanced rearrangement regards the perspectives of Samuel P. Huntington and Francis Fukuyama. From Clash of Civilizations I may have cherry picked or perspectivized my analysis via tangential influences. While Francis Fukuyama has corrected his alignment from The New American Century, from renouncing the Bush administration to supporting and influencing the Obama Doctrine, it is not just ironic that the tag line for the issue of release of the bin Laden photos is, "It is not who we are" nor that the likes of the right see almost everything as a culture war. Or that both Bush and I were opti-mystic,(yeah right, he was) and why we now have hope.

Hu's news? "There he goes again."

Hu’s news, "agree to disagree" and regrets.

Leaders may be followed no matter if what they mean can be verified or even understood.
Translation aside, "as friends" do they trust or will they even bother to verify?
Regrets of protest a shock that it takes a foreign leader’s appearance to demonstrate freedom of speech but at least the method of dealing with it is understood and appreciated.

Fog of preemption aside or tangentially let us hope that the intention to "cooperate more closely on trade and nuclear tensions over Iran and North Korea" is followed and bring desired results whether we can verify even the intentions or not. The point is that if war can preempt even intentions where does one start to stop them? Or is there any intention to blow off the fog of intention, contention or pretension.

A wink and a nod to Reagan, from the "Great Communicator" to "I'm the Decider", here we go again the hard work of deciding who will cross the road or control the trickling downers that democracy eggs or growed.

THE GRIDDLE:
Just when and what did who decide and when did who know it?
Thanks Woodward and Bernstein.

[Note: the link below implies no indication that I have or intend to read the book(not uncommon), but while one should not judge a book by it's cover, one may discern meaning from a title and give it credit if you get it, unless you have already decided.]

Re:Focus

TIME is not on anyone's side.

(NFRY)
related links : Joe Klein
Paralysis Rules
One for All and All for One
Is Romney a Realist or an Idealist?
Paul Ryan's Grand Vision
The Trouble with Simpson-Bowles

(fn) not yet

[Re-visit ! ?]

[Re:Boot ?]

[Let her role ?^^ ]
AM ?
NOW ?
Mitt-matic ?
Cheese US ?
Or Bane^ ? !
Or Diploma See!

^ The Best Defense(Mine'd Hive?)
^^ But a blimp[!] The Mark Leder Twain.

[Fog of Math!?]
[Brass Balls? Or Dorothy's Slippers?]

FOOTNOTES PAGE ONE SEPTEMBER 2014

Footnotes Page
in draft*
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*(b.s.)=blog search
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Re:labels & other blog spots.

A K A / August missing Footnotes Page
Categorical Empiricists ?**
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** CAD (To be or not 3d) ?






9-9-14 Original Intent or in tent
(AM IT: [tan gent(~)] Andrea Mitchell ISIS Threat /-/ Witt Gen Stein/Jihadist  Defeating IS IS?
This is not to pun or purge, but to more carefully review later, the word.)


{Stop.} At this point, I will change the heading of this link from #(9-3-14) to "FOOTNOTES PAGE ONE SEPTEMBER 2014"\
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9-9-14{nexus}
PIT Spot? 1.  T= A. PIT Schtick, B. Clause Wits (3.0)?, C. There is no Savior, :D, E: Three Clauses for ...  [any body love Rice?  Ronan Farrow Daily?]
2. Spoiler Alert? Not yet M-bed ed.
3. C-O.I.? = A.Original Intent?, B. GOP Plan to Hurt Economy, C. The Exit Strategy, D~?.  vOO due: vCR, E. Where everyone needs to read..., F. Table of Contents, G. Health Care Summit, H. Progressive Poll  I. What are the Frackin' Odds..., J.Happy Earth Day!, K.Try Angle,  L. Mess Age Monger,  M. Post-Turkey Day,  N. Nadir, O. Clause Wits, P. Romer Resigns,  Q. Go Purple!,   R. Give an inch..., S. Temporal, T. Back to "The One Thing?". @  {(~)} Future Bubble?


~: OH REALLY FOG / Catch-44
4loreMat[?]: labels 3~ NFRY, meta/slash, P.C.? [/]4Ribble! 
TRP/RBTL: 

Triumph of the process (breaking)

Democratic opposition to seating Burris cracks. Failure of context. Saying something and acting on it are two different things. The senate has not seated Burris, while the "whys" are still wavering in the media. Race, politics, and media are undeniable factors; putting them together and forming questions and "Y"s are infinite.
[Definitively ** by Harry Reid: And apparently may "be damned"(Mike Vicara)*]

Bottom line: the senate is following its rules and making sure Illinois is following its rules and no one person is the decider, though many can have their say, and others can twist in the wind.

As for the other twisting senator; which hangs on the process as well.

Minnesota Post: 1-3-09
ABCNews: 1-4-09
Huffington Post (above): 1-5-09
TPM ***: 1-6-09
Time today

The latest?
Coleman sues!MSNBC
Minneaplis Star Tribune
The catch is that duplicate ballots are counted, but the orginals are not. That is the reason they are duplicated, in order to count them(presumably to get the count into a machine)and by every right the orginals are not counted because they cannot be counted. Speaking as one who has been a(legal)counter and duplicator of votes in Washington State.

[* this is what's breaking live on MSNBC: as my own imaginings and search for missing links, the mention of U.S. Senate rules requiring two signatures is yet to be found, meanwhile the process is being tainted by the media incompetence. Hence the reason the rules committe will be looking at this. I could imagine this going to the U.S. Supreme Court, but it would be likely that the process the senate will take will be within their rights. Rules are not laws, but processes, that must submit to the people involved. Out of this fog, my prediction is that the vote by the full senate will rule. The fact that it may be flexible is the matter. i.e. hinges on the idea that Illinois has a space for and the U.S. senate has required two signatures. That the U.S. Senate determines its rules is the rule and voting on it may be another hinge.]

** the link that hinges on my imagination and rulings, meaning what I hung my comments on,[the missing link(*)] while the Mike Vicara note refers to the taint the media insists on painting with their imaginings rather than footwork. OK, they are keeping us on our toes, by stepping on some.

*** "But you shouldn't confuse the fact that the courts should remain open to hear those claims, with the question of whether or not those claims have any merit," Elias said. "And in this case, former Senator Coleman's claims don't have any merit."

By Polar

wise crackers re:cycled?

Re:dimentionalism and polls*, beyond them and us. 
I will take the brunt of the crackers crack, and crumble the pun on the wise words of Simon or who says... what?

Post Bracket Eds(below): Somewhere there has been a leak of a congressional sense that more needs to done in Syria.  Are the wrest** leaning back as the west stands ground?  

*Not to trans\pose Ed and Aye. Formerly(ed. note) =columns.
(FP2)[on the tick tock ? (kn-0t)]
[Closing Bracket Eds?]
** con-volution of lean and means: Re. cheer leaders (stand up/stair down)

9-11-13 Pre-Post Or Us. (I/eye) The Byrd is the Word ! (the tick tock) or teddy?
Harmony and Irony? Duh Bares ? [!]
[The Last Word yesterday in regards to Polar Culture. My original intent was in regards to columns of cracks; mine and others, but also the polarities of the process that brings progress.  Not to mention a crack @ the cold war. Related anachronistic theory: Good Cop/Bad Cop?(Congress/Obama), (Russian Foreign Minister/Putin) or by/bye? Let alone Re:Cycle(today). (The Fog of War and Tactical Voices.) ]

Knot Gun nuh due it.

Oh Really Fog.

(convenient obtuseness)
i.e. lede or ship(con text)
& I don't mean the MASH corporal.

[Pulled to draft as I had yet to even begin the read.]
On third take*, I will leave it as preempted.

*at witch point I insert 3 links above[!]

[Post scan but pre-read... i.e. not Evelyn Wooded. 
I cherry pitted a read, and leap.

Uncross Rhodes GPS

Tetra* Heed Run of Progress.

[But something is fishy.]

* Not in particular order**.

** But emphasis on Norman Goldman's plea: "Am I all alone?"
There are one or two & a half others.  Which makes "Three and a Half-Pundits"!

This was noted before he put his exclamation point on it(clip not available), in regard to a reference to the Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly Debate and the "fog of capitalism" (my paraphrase), not to mention AP-Paul-ING-Susan and End of Interview.(Fee, fi(dough), foe, King) 

And just to file Hartmann and Rhodes under Heed and Run,(another 3&1/2 including me) the latter wonderfully read former Republican Senator Pressler's endorsement of President Obama for a second term.

[Endorsing spit-takes... or convenient cup.***]
***or fish bowl? C-Not.  Bush Leagues under the C.

Score Won...

... 4 Bill Owe?

b.s. fog
billy club
s.e. bowl?* (1)
Jo(h)n Stewart?

Comedy Central The Daily Show
(CF? PC[!] Christian Philosophy / Fiscal Crypt?]

[Photo Book Stack here.*]


*[Order(3) of insert] (2 ** ) ($B4 )
** TD (too difficult) (re:Pete) cc:lost link RC (re-coop)
(5th cents or where buck$) aka $F?  Punch Line?
[Long Story Short?  Nominal(ism) Foundation]

*due to difficulties with the inter-tubes
this image must stand in, sit up, fight, fight, fight!

[Seriously, a block of cheese just shorted my either net, and I must re-boot(or is that punT?)]

[And just before I could say...GO VIKINGS! Re:guard**less GO VIKINGS!]
** Ctrl F "king"

1-7-13 Go Colts! i.e. Belated Nominalism or ana-deja-voodoo.  Our Lady over the Rollers[!]
[Post Game Re-Cap: Tide Rolls. As to Maddowian Effect? Seemingly intact. Thanks to ND.]

New Jersey Bridge Scandals

Is the "New Jersey Bridge Scandal" Governor Chris Christie's Benghazi or Snowden Scandal?

In other words, one hand not knowing what the other is doing?  Or the fog or politics?  In this I am prospecting* that they are much ado about the other branches or parties.

* Crtl F "plumb"

Off the Cuff

Or the bottom line ?
Only the twain?

See Label
(I pun on the Mark Leder Tapes)
I know it is inarticulate, but I like his style.  He does his own warm up act, but less than 3 minutes in he frames the future as "China working with us" or "something like Europe"...

See [Fog of Math!?]
Re: Off Track

The Trouble with the Mitt:
His 47% rant is political.  
His MC hammer is off. 
Not to pun on the MC but his nail is the 96%!

There is the trouble with his charts,


trouble with his "entitles"



and trouble both domestic















 and foreign.

I may be forgetting something but I shall probably return.

THANK YOU DAVE ROSS!

For exposing the PVRHT act.
(Otherwise known as: H.R. 1955: for the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism)
OK, I left off(or spun off) the PA (prevention act)for its Patronizing Attitude and the quip that the act itself could fall under its own spell.
[Dave Ross interviewed Alicia Mundy (1) of the Seattle Times and Chip Berlet (2) of Political Research Associates.]

[If you read nothing further: read (1) and (2), above]

Bottom Line: The Senate should hold hearings on this act! Or have the guts to act as fast in rejecting this act as premature and ill advised based on the fear it was enacted under. One major failure of this piece is the appointment process which should be balanced in favor of the majority party. The other is the need to review current intelligence gathering and its use. That is what the committee should be limited to, if not extended to the suggestions contained here.

[OTHER COMMENTS]Congressional Quarterly Homeland Security "Boondoggle"
technocrati thought police? 3 tags
The Agonist "pointed at the Republican Party"
Video from the middle (link) 1st one Kennedy

Previous Posts:
Unity in Principle July 22nd, 2004
Intelligence for Commission
Bicameral Brain
Up The Filter August 2nd, 2004
CIA our job one November 17th, 2004
Slam Dunk to the Circular File!
The links that connect
"Slam dunk" of "pre-emptive strike" August 26th, 2006
Caution merited? September 26th,2006

Lastly: The words of the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 seems innocuous enough, but so do the words of the [Project for the New American Century] but it must be looked into. Recommendations for any new intelligence or laws must be put on hold until investigations of old intelligence and laws have been made, not to mention the Phase II.[Apparently done, yet...]
[For more radicalized research yet more conservative as in fiscally responsible consider what is already "out there" (I do not recommend you trust, but verify? YES!)

* Patronizing Attitudes may be the cause of radicalization and terrorism as spelled out in current research. Not to mention the problem of defining ideology and intelligence: having more of it, does not mean you have enough to handle it. The process is important and it must be considered what is being done to complicate the process by those who have no faith in the process, yet want to add to it.

Bonus hit: trust but verify

It may also be worthy to study the words of Thomas Jefferson under subheadings, When Revolution is the Only Answer, Consequences of Revolution, and Prospects for Reformation, and just before these The Need for Leadership:

"The moderation and virtue of a single character [i.e., George Washington] have probably prevented [the American] Revolution from being closed, as most others have been, by a subversion of that liberty it was intended to establish." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1784. ME 4:218, Papers 7:106

Speaking of "nuance" meaning nothing in this post should suggest violence is the answer, nonetheless I was surprised to find this, thinking I was reaching for something more "out there": from Goldwater

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Bottom line is the people, bottom line is your job. The political spectrum is not linear but needs ones own perspective and the realization that the answer is not limited to that linear spectrum either. This should be realized by the three branches of government and the light that intelligence should shine on the process as well as the "hard work" of all people.

FURTHER: Nothing is more important than the focus on activities not words, except for the law, as proper protest must have a line to cross and confidence that there is a line to stand on and the same one to cross to suffer the consequences. And that line must be applied up and down the process and its people. And a quick search of "laws, not people" found the fog of our ways, another act that needs following up to be certain congress has done the "hard work" spelled out in their job description .

[Long Story Short: Update from Slate found after my Pre-Empting Crimes.]

QCON: Or JUST Quick Rant?

(Quick Comment On News)
Paraphrasing President Bush: the troops deserve unwavering commitment to the mission and a clear strategy for victory.

My comment: These are both fine, but out of order and missing much more. The commitment to the mission should come after a clear strategy which cannot come before the recognition of facts as well as the reality of cause and effect.

Given the emphasis on repeating propaganda and forcing not balancing wills, not to mention the fog of accountability that is the chain of command, we are a far cry from the troops getting the commitment they deserve which should come in more than just words. Words that if you look at them are more about the mission than the troops. And are more about words than actual support for the troops.

It seems a vicious cycle which of course should end, but they in so many of their own words recognize it will not. Noting this, the only answer is for the vicious cycle to return to the "hard work" cycle that others were doing before the vicious cycle thinkers took charge. Given their choice that others will do the hard work, we would think they should agree that others take the cycle back to better support the troops, let alone the people.

[Sorry only link is below]